He is able to perceive things in a different dimension so what. From what your saying you making it seem as if in this battle Jiren is going to what? However, a motivational speech from Top allows Jiren to regain his footing and fight back. He might be using ki to do it, too, or that's his suit. [12] He would continue to observe the battlefield until only Universe 7 and Universe 11 remained. Toriyama also spread apart Jiren's eyes and drew it to be more square in shape. vegito did it vegeta did it in manga and even fodder pride troopers can do it so its not crazy to say jiren can do it to. The problem with Jiren is that he is not an anti-hax sort of character in Dragon Ball, he simply overpowers hax by muscling his way through, not sure how is he going to muscle his way through Ichigo's soulhax when he has never shown resistance to it in the first place. i dont see anything in the rules that say jiren can't do so? Despite his humble origins, Jiren is regarded as one of the most powerful mortal beings among the twelve universes in the Dragon Ball mythos. Until We Meet Again!!" [21][13] Stefan Sgarioto from Madman Entertainment named Jiren as the third most memorable villain of the Dragon Ball series and praised the contrast between his virtuous traits and his role as an antagonistic character. [26] During Kale's rampage, Goku suggests Jiren to help out his teammates, to which he refuses, stating it as unnecessary. That’s not predicting that’s reacting. Gohan teamed up with Frieza to defeat Dyspo, SSJ Blue Kaioken Goku and Vegeta vs Jiren (English Dub) At this point this isn’t equal stats and this clearly gives Jiren a reaction time advantage. Unless you're saying that Champa wrong. That wasn’t the case in the Hit fight where the speed gap was massive. 52 comments. @jonathancarlton: stop acting like you have mental problems. Everyone here has read bleach so stop acting brain dead. After all, it is a martial artist's perfect form. Ichigo doesn't even have 0.1 percent experience of Jiren. Jiren possesses superhuman speed, strength, durability and reflexes, all of which are magnified to incredibly high levels. Before he is erased alongside his allies and universe, Goku offers a truce and rematch, to which Jiren accepts. Due to his refusal, the position went to the Pride Trooper leader, Toppo (トッポ) or Top in the English localization of the anime, who is Jiren's friend and superior instead. Ichigo wouldn't even land a scratch on him, well Jiren would kill him with just his little pinky. Jiren toys with Vegeta and severely injures him, despite the Saiyan refusing to give up, before eliminating him. [23] He first appears by assisting his Pride Trooper comrades in defeating a large monster and sealing it inside a capsule. In this thread reaction is equalized. Godzilla vs. Biollante S.H.MonsterArts Biollante (Special Color Ver.) A Saiyan, sent to Earth as a baby with the mission to destroy it, Goku became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head and was adopted by Grandpa Gohan. The force of the blow knocked Goku, Jiren and Frieza off of the arena, eliminating all three of them before Android 17 reveals himself from under the battlefield's rubble. And let the rules of this thread that is equalized. Please stop embarrassing yourself. My argument here is that Jiren was able to react and detect hits movement despite being in another dimension as a testament to his skill but you keep insisting that is speed base and I want to know how because what you're saying literally makes no sense. What I'm saying is compared to hits movements ichigo's movements will be child's play To be able to predict and encounter . What he’s doing is reacting simple as that. Ishitani indicated that his emotional state and will to fight improves after receiving a show of support by his Pride Trooper teammate, and especially after he is confronted by a revived Goku who has regained some of his strength, due to his respect for Goku and for getting a second chance to finish their fight. Is also how we make hurricane predictions by the way Which I'm sure you think Predicting a targets movements based on tracking it's trajectory is just witchcraft. Created with community votes, our Dragon Ball FighterZ tiers page brings fans a clear picture of where each character on the roster ranks in-game. Jiren reappears damaged from the attack and promptly eliminates Vegeta from the tournament before taking on a worn out Goku, swiftly overpowering him. 248. Company: Bandai Spirits (224) Banpresto (247) Funko (67) Tsume (4) Bandai America (45) CMD Collectibles (31) Infinity Studio (1) Plex (33) MegaHouse (8) X-Plus (14) + Show More. Review", "Dragon Ball Super Episode 122: "For One's Own Pride! @heatwave666: I think what is being said is that Jiren will finesse Ichigo or something...but Ichigo has a sword...any skill advantage Jiren does have is going to negated unless you depict Jiren as an untouchable martial arts god and Ichigo as a child with a toothpick. Review", "Dragon Ball Super Episode 128: "Noble Pride To The End! "He can also generate masks to save him from damage during close quarters sword fights". The two fight again, with Goku reverting to normal very quickly. Moreover how they used said hax or power to their advantage. The Ultimate Survival Battle!!" At this point I want you to clarify what In your delusional mind constitutes as a combat skill. @over-nine-thousand: But Jiren doesn't make energy blades and not just anyone can do just any attack. Any advantage in skill Jiren might have is vague and based on opinion. He is then met by Vegeta who manages to out-maneuver and deliver a series of attacks before Jiren quickly incapacitates him. Seeing that he has defeated Goku and Jiren, whom he perceived were the two greatest threats to him in the tournament, Jiren retreats to meditate whilst the remaining two Universe 11 fighters, Top and Dyspo carried on with the fighting.[11]. Ultra Instinct Goku isn't even top 5 on Supernoon's Season 3.5 tier list for Dragon Ball FighterZ Frieza and his bro really need to hit the gym with the Ginyu Force It was first created and named by Frieza himself. Reviewers have praised the character's involvement in some of the best scenes and story arcs of Dragon Ball Super, whereas criticism have focused on the lack of depth for Jiren's backstory and that his characterization is lacking in nuance. I just find the fact Ichigo healing, and damage soak on top of his durability gives him the advantage. [27] The two fight again, only to be interrupted by Master Roshi who manages to dodge Jiren's attacks with his martial arts skill. She said that Jiren's belief in the concept of "solitude is strength" is influenced by his tragic past, and that his own power had reinforced the validity of this belief until Episode 130 when he loses to Goku, a rival who had grown strong through his allies. Annoying ass troll in the Dragon Ball section, Wasn't that me when I made him concede to Low Multiversal DBS Goku? In high enough quantities, spiritual pressure can be lethal to others. And that's only because you think Ichigo isn't doing anything to predict his opponent. This is clearly not the case as we can clearly see Jiren is able to see where Hit was WHILE he is in his dimension. One major difference is that Toriyama inverted Toyotarou's body design for Jiren, by reducing the thickness of his lower body and accentuating his upper body. However, while the game certainly has an anime-style look to it, and even a few gameplay elements that resemble Guilty Gear, it’s a 3-on-3 fighting game. discord.gg/dbz. You're lying. Ichigo got soul crushed by Kenpachi even though they are both Captain class Shinigami as I already showed in my fourth image. @heatwave666: No I'm just Taken aback that despite having Most stupidest arguments I've ever heard like And literally not addressing my argument You're probably delusional to think that you're winning. Even if Jiren has piercing durability to depend against physical attacks of Ichigo's zanpakuto, he has no answer to the soul cutting property of the zanpakuto. Jiren reluctantly takes this advantage to eliminate Goku, but is saved by Frieza who is joined by Android 17 for a final battle. [7] He was also able to repel the Light of Love technique from Universe 2's Ribrianne[8] and swiftly eliminated Universe 3's Maji Kayo with a single punch after Maji Kayo threatened to torture Dyspo, one of the Pride Trooper's and Universe 11's contestants. My statement About jiren perceiving hits movements in another time space is accurate.”. At that point all they had to do was react to him. [6] During the tournament, Jiren mostly remains inactive in spite of most of the Pride Troopers being eliminated from the tournament early on, but remains an intimidating force throughout. My statement About jiren perceiving hits movements in another time space is accurate. Goku also pulls back from his exhaustion and repels an energy blast intending to eliminate Frieza and Android 17. Jiren first appears in Episode 85 of the Dragon Ball Super anime, whereas his debut appearance for the Dragon Ball Super manga is in Chapter 30. @jonathancarlton: frieza resisted sadra's hakai and it was stated it could wipe out his body and soul and freiza resisted that, and jiren is way stronger than frieza. So combat experience techqiues and haxs even though you earlier said that combat experience doesn't matter.. And Jiren has way more variations on his technique allowing him better range and AoE options which you also seem to think didn't matter. Vegeta then challenges Jiren, followed by Android 17 and Frieza. His power level is said to have surpassed his universe's God of Destruction, Belmod (ベルモッド) or Vermoud in the English localization of the anime. "Dragon Ball Super episode 100 recap and review: "Universal Survival Saga: Rampage! Okay so if that's not the case in Jiren stamps due to having a much more combat experience. share. After Top is defeated, Jiren promptly calls him pathetic for throwing away his ideals and losing and praising Vegeta for holding on to his beliefs. That wasn’t the case in the Hit fight where the speed gap was massive. He was also able to successfully predict where it was going to be while skipping ahead in time!!! "Perceive Ichigo in slow mo to dissect his attacks? Not willing to avenge their comrades, the remaining students left Jiren alone, causing him to believe in one's own strength as an absolute goal towards justice and that trust in other is unnecessary. This is something every warrior can do. Just a crappy RC argument that got Hakai'ed out of this thread, @heatwave666: "This entire time I was literally going based off what you were saying". Because reaction speed is the only thing being shown in this scene. [18] In an opinion piece, Valdez expressed disappointment in Jiren's backstory and echoed Saris' sentiment that it does not fit a character like Jiren. Shortly afterwards, he is revived by the Super Dragon Balls via Android 17's wish.[31]. About Community. Goku recovers after receiving energy from Vegeta before his elimination and resumes his fight against Jiren, activating his Ultra Instinct form again midway through. These are YOUR words. [32] He was later announced as a DLC character for the Extra Pack 2 bundle for Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2,[33] one of six DLC characters introduced by FighterZ Pass 2 of Dragon Ball FighterZ,[1] and as a playable character for Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle. Jiren was then adopted and trained by a martial arts teacher, alongside others to avenge Jiren's parents, until he encountered the evil figure again, during which Jiren's teacher and most of his disciples were killed. [36] He placed third by fan vote in a poll of Dragon Ball antagonists published by the March 2018 issue of V Jump. At that point he’s just reacting to the attack. ", Why do you keep going back to that speed argument as it that has anything him Being able to track his movements Skipping time and jumping into dimensions. @king-jagi: How in the world would them being equalized in stats allow Jiren to beat Ichigo with a pinky? @heatwave666: Nope I can totally responding rip your arguments The pieces all night long I just feel like pointing out what stubborn idiot you're being. Selection will refresh the page with new results. Jiren has received an overall mixed critical reception. [10] Saris observed that Jiren's character was developed to such a degree that Super would be remiss to not bring him back for future stories, and assessed the final battle between Jiren and Goku's allies in Episode 130 as being "one of the best battles in Dragon Ball history".
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