I will install 8 GB Apacer RAM and a Samsung 860 EVO or 960 EVO or 970 EVO plus SSD. During the stream we will install Roon Rock on an Intel NUC. Explore the world of music as you listen, precisely tailored to your tastes. Jan 2021, 09:02: StreamFidelity (Beitrag #2402) schrieb: Ein wenig vermisse ich es direkt über das iPAD oder iPhone die Lautstärke zu steuern. Agreed. I will look into the Teddy Pardo power supply. Not to get off topic, but this really annoys me. StereJo Inventar #2404 erstellt: 30. We have assigned 2 cores / 4 threads and 8GB RAM to this Ubuntu installation. Remember, I want this to last and be able to handle future Roon features and developments. It’s passive and works great for Roon ROCK I am using one now. http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fanless%20Chassis&type_sub=Fanless%20NUC&model=A-NUC39-A1B. [yes on Dawson Canyon], NUC7i7DN…(works for me without any problems with the ROCK; the eighth generation is more energy-efficient; in BIOS settings: Low Power Enabled and Turbo Boost disabled and in Roon DSP upsampling settings: all into DSD256 the processor speed is about x2.4, the fan is very quiet), USB Ethernet adapter for second LAN (for example. Cirrus7 8i7 here. It must be said that I do not use ROCK but Ubuntu on which I run roon servers and other applications and that’s why it’s tempting; Currently all these are running on a poor but great NUC pole; Why not just buy a supported model? Das ROCK-Betriebssystem ist für diese Hardware/Platinen optimiert. There is a reasonably affordable fanless case that supports this i7 NUC model, so would make a nice solution. OK, future-proof, for sure. OR. Who knows when will be both available for the 10th gen NUC’s. 500+ post club; Full Member; 489 1,127 posts; Location: NSW; Country: Australia; Share; Posted July 7, 2020. Oct 13, 2020 #1 I currently have a laptop running Roon Core at the moment, but looking to go the server route. http://kb.roonlabs.com/Roon_Optimized_Core_Kit. Damit kann ich vieles parallel laufen lassen. Good point, this is an important question! We have therefore installed Ubuntu on our Unraid server (RAID array, SSD cache, 10-core Xeon (E-2690V2) with 48GB RAM) in a Virtual Machine. Good luck for the next couple of weeks to find a good NUC8 deal soon, or a confirmation about NUC10 compatibility. I’m very very confident that’s not a NUC7i7BNH horse-power related issue. I have that model and it works well, I believe the Roon Nucleus + uses it but I am not certain. Bei Einsatz auf einem NAS muss man auf genügend RAM und Rechenleistung achten. Liegt dein Roon Core jedoch auf einem Server, reicht dein Smartphone oder Tablet zur Steuerung der Welt von Roon. Die beliebteste Version von Roon ist 1.2. I don’t think there is any reason to use 128MB SSD. But it seems the situation is changing. That is my next decision, which linear power supply is best for the ROCK/NUC? It was easier than expected to install ROCK and migrate the existing Roon database. Ugh. Continuation of thread below - Uniticore vs Roon Nuc DIY vs Roon Nucleus - Naim Audio - Community I’ve got a UnitiCore and a DIY - Roon server based on intel i5Nuc running Roon Rock… Sie können auch das gleiche: In ihren kompakten Gehäusen stecken kleine Einchip-Computer (Intel NUC), die für die Verwendung mit der intelligenten Mediensoftware optimiert wurden. sometimes a fanless case is used in order to decrease electrical noise and reduce vibrations. Share this: Twitter; Facebook; Related. I did considered NUC10 but reasons for going 10 doesn’t make sense for ROCK considering the Nucleus is still on NUC7 platform(?). I run Roon ROCK on Intel NUC and it has performed without fault from day 1. Forums. would be up 7/24 , power consumption matters. So, I’m leaning towards the best performance I can get on a dedicated platform, but I can probably wait a bit to see if prices get better or the NUC8 comes back in stock. I have a 64MB and 1.2 TB of music. Get Roon installed on your local machine, mobile apps and audio devices. Some of these parts are not necessary for Roon ROCK. As my R.O.C.K. But based on my experience it’s not fully true. The CPU clock speed of the new line will be significantly slower, and as a result they come with lower TDP (based on some tests). not really needed but… one never knows. Roon would need that power in a foreseeable future. Roon Core, Roon Bridge, Roon Remote – so sieht ein typisches Set-up im Musikkosmos „Roon“ aus. Eine wichtige Eigenschaft des Roon-Nucleus ist, dass er … I think Rooon Team will deal with this issue, but it is better to see than hope. But not on any price. The NUC8i7BEH was sold out in many shops, but currently available again. The set-up of these two machines is almost the same: ROON Rock is in fact a stripped down linux version of ROON. My music library is not too big and I don’t use CPU hungry DSP features. Why not just buy a supported model? Other fan-less NUCS support? I do push the DSP and upsampling though so wanted more CPU than a QNAP can offer. The 9s and 10s should be driving down the price of the 7s and 8s. This seems to be the i7 models, but which one is perfect for ROCK? So this includes NUC7i7DN*. 3 Link to post Share on other sites. Can anyone characterize the probability of ROCK working on the 10th Gen? Ist der PrimeMini sogar die bessere Roon Nucleus Alternative? Habe mir heute einen Intel NUC 10 mit i5, 8GB DDR4 und einer 250GB SSD bestellt. How Roon works; Features; Nucleus; Partners; Menu. I want the best NUC/ROCK so that I don’t have to compromise with future updates, upgrades, more rooms/zones and DSP. Sie können Roon 1.2 kostenlos von unserem Software-Portal herunterladen. I’ve been looking at making the jump to ROCK on NUC, but it looks like the NUC8i7BEH is sold out everywhere (and I can’t get a clear read on whether it’s likely to come back). I just ordered the Cirrus7 8i5. Der eigentliche Entwickler dieser kostenlosen Software ist Roon Labs LLC. Maybe @Danny can advise. I’m not too worried about the fanless case. Add to Wishlist | Add to Compare; Specifications. The Nucleus + model sells for €2799,- and is build with the motherboard/cpu of the NUC7 i7. Beste Ergebnisse erzielte der Intel NUC mit Roon Rock, recht stabil und via Webseite auch leicht zu warten. Download for macOS. I’ve just spent a lot of money on an inadequate solution (MQA 192 does not work properly), all because I needed a wired connection since Roon Wifi support stinks. I wish I knew about the NUC7i7DN when I bought mine. Instead of logging in, click "Restore A Backup" in the lower-left hand corner; Use Roon's file browser to locate the `/RoonBackups` folder you created in Step 1; If you created a USB backup, it should be connected to your NUC and you can navigate to it Roon Rock, - is the brains behind the operation and manages your music collection, it builds an interconnected digital library using enhanced information from Roon. From what I understand the 10 makes most sense as i7 model. So I asked Danny for confirmation, but never got a reply. Auf die Installation von ROCK bin ich gespannt. Well… someone says bits are bits. I really won’t need that much power for ROCK since I use Chord M-Scaler as upsampler. 8gb will cover most bases 16gb will cover everything except very very large libraries say >50k Albums. Wir bauen einen Roon Core aus einem Intel NUC selber Roon selber erklärt es, Intel hilft mit Update Anleitungen, Kollegen geben gute Tipps, was braucht es da noch den Bonsaimacho? The 9s and 10s should be driving down the price of the 7s and 8s. This doesn’t sound like a NUC performance issue. Power output: 19V, up to 3.5A; Mains Supply: 110-120V or 220-240V; Dimensions: 24x16x6 cm; Cable included: Silver-plated copper with 5.5mm outer, 2.5mm inner barrel diameter connector; More Views. Well, sometimes a fanless case is used in order to decrease electrical noise and reduce vibrations. Immer mehr Empfangsgeräte (Roon Bridge) haben die Musikverwaltungssoftware integriert. 10 hours ago, MattyW said: Mmmmm, jussmade the switch to Roon this week. This was built within the past week. I can’t wait for them to get out, I’ll definitely buy one. Running ROCK on a dedicated server gives me more balanced sound, better sound stage, more details. Replacing a UpTone modified Mac mini from 2011 that never broke any sweat running Roon. Thanks for you response in advance. Angeboten wird „Roon Core Kit auf Intel Nuc i7 Basis - fertig installiert und betriebsbereit - 232 GB SSD eingebaut“ von --- Diverse / Andere --- als Gebrauchtgerät aus der Kategorie „Digital Streamer“ bei audio-markt.de - dem Online-Marktplatz für High-End. Given I have additional reasons for considering the 10th Gen i7 NUC, I would like to know what the timing meet be regarding testing and certification. Incredible performance/watt. Der Roon-Client ist natürlich vorinstalliert und das BIOS der Rechner wurde vom Hersteller so optimiert, dass via USB angestöpselte D/A-Wandler schwungvoll und audiophil musizieren. Live installation – Roon Rock . Should we wait for 10th gen or is it better to stay with 8th gen? Der Roon Core läuft im Docker. S. Sonnie New Member. Bei mir läuft Roon auf einem Intel NUC (es gibt bei Roon eine Liste mit getesteten NUC's) in der "NUC Rock" Version. Get it on PC, Mac, Linux, Intel NUC, Android & iOS. Der NUC (next unit computer von Intel) wurde von ROON zur Entwicklung der Software genutzt und ist von der Hardware her der perfekte ROON-CORE-SERVER – denn er passt als „Deckel genau auf diesen Topf“. Computer Based Music Server Forum . Roon SOftware downloads. Coming Thursday – 23-07-2020 – we will start at 10:00 with a Live Roon Rock installation tutorial. The primary reason I’m looking at NUC is that the roon core I’m running on Win10 (Devil’s Canyon processor) has been flakey (losing local audio devices and can’t find them until I restart the core, Qobuz login fails after every computer restart) and end points consistently take several seconds to connect. My Roon ROCK project. The only reason why I din’t mention it was the pricing. Immerse yourself in photos, bios, reviews, credits, lyrics, tour dates, and more… Start with the music you know, and then let Roon connect it with millions of high-resolution tracks available on TIDAL and Qobuz. 1 = Core NUC/ROCK with Hard Drive Connected to Router/Switch Note: For those who don't want anything to do with this aspect of ROCK, Roon Labs offers a product called Nucleus. The NUC7i7BNH is a bit underpowered for Rock, IMO. Let me share my first impressions with NUC8i5BEH2 config (250GB Samsung EVO Plus NVMe M.2 SSD, 1 pcs 8GB 2400 MHz CL17 Apacer RAM module). Für um die 300,- € geht es mit einem i3-Board schon los. After that I’m guessing it should be pretty similar to any other Nuc. Keep in mind the Nucleus uses the exact same Intel hardware as found in Nucs and uses the exact same Linux audio sub system found in Roon ROCK. Any info from the Roon Team or any guidance from the community would be highly appreciated. I’m sure if you raise it with @support they’ll look into it and sort it out. But I would wait for confirmed Roon support, just to have the ‘warm and fuzzy’ feeling inside. Ingredient No 2: Roon Bridge. However I don’t expect anything serious. the Intel Frost Canyon model Nucs are passive off the shelf, look up the NUC10i5FNK. The NUC 10 Performance works at a TDP of 15 Watt, which suggest a much cooler operation running ROON. Wait for a realistic NUC10i7FNH offer, if you can! True. Intel did a great job–4 cores/8 threads, but also great single-threaded performance (up to 4.2GHz IIRC), and all of that in a 15W TDP for the CPU. Zusätzlich bietet Roon Labs auch die passende Hardware an, den Roon Nucleus. I re-installed the Roon ROCK OS, and the problem still exists with the HDMI connection to the Denon AVR. Mostly, I just wanted to make sure the NUC10 will actually work with ROCK in case I decide to go that route. Now, I’m getting dropouts that I never got with my wireless connect, but the iOs Remote works. Oct 10, 2020 6 0 1 59. You could easily do this for $600 and not be missing anything. All DSP runs on the core, so you are not getting any extra scalability out of this arrangement. Also, how much memory and SSD should I get? The NUC8i5BEH is still a better option from price/performance point of view, if you don’t need huge computing power. And importantly Christmas is coming, I will have time to play with my new server. What is currently the best NUC for ROCK? So I followed the recommendations in the Knowledge Base: ROCK For Small to Medium Sized Libraries (actually it’s an Intel NUC 10 in the “old” Knowledge Base). This is roughly comparable to the Core i5 of the NUC. Damit fällt das Thema Windows und andere Apps, die ggf. I want the best NUC/ROCK so that I don’t have to compromise with future updates, upgrades, more rooms/zones and DSP. Our Favorite Technology & Audio Forums. If you don’t then wait. But now the picture is clearer, once the NUC is in idle, there is no significant difference between the two CPU’s. In any case, if I do move it into the basement, I’ll likely switch the endpoint to a Pi feeding my receiver. I upgraded the BIOS on my NUC from 053 to 055. You can browse and play music with Roon apps on all your devices whether its a Mac, Windows, iPad, iPhone, and Android devices. Notice the Single Thread Rating NUC7 i3 vs NUC10 i3 (100% vs 195%) this is almost double the performance at the same TDP of 15 Watt. Why/how do you use the USB-Ethernet adaptor? If you need a fanless case, the NUC8i5BEH is a better way to go. Basis für den Roon Nucleus bilden Intel NUC Platinen. I ran the HDMI 2.0 firmware upgrade program which indicated that the NUC already had the latest (final) version of the HDMI firmware. Roon ist als "Multimedia" kategorisiert. They both use … Thanks for the recommendation! Remember, I want this to last and be able to handle future Roon features and developments. At the time of my post the price difference between best prices for 8i3 and 8i5 was around 50 %, and only 15-20 % between the 8i5 and 8i7. For the 8th gen NUC’s fanless cases are already available and are Roon ROCK supported. Availability: In stock. Thread starter Sonnie; Start date Oct 13, 2020; Home. I carefully read the Roon Rock knowledge base and the new model is not mentioned nor is there any warning that the old model is not quite powerful enough. Das neueste Setup-Paket nimmt 75.5 MB Speicherplatz ein. Network/Ethernet > NUC/ROCK USB > USB DAC > PRE/AMP > Speakers. Will see…. This seems to be the i7 models, but which one is perfect for ROCK? NUC - Roon Rock or Win10 Pro. Aktuell läuft mein Core auf einer Linux-VM meines Heimservers. Just a guess : March-April 2020. Somit läuft das für NUC-Platinen optimierte ROCK auf einem PrimeMini genau gleich gut wie auf dem deutlich teureren Roon Nucleus. The NUC runs relatively quiet, but I will go fanless once my Akasa Turing case will arrive (expected around mid January), As I mentioned earlier this was my biggest concern. I asked Danny if ‘work’ means officially supported by Roon (since ‘works’ and ‘supported’ don’t always mean the same thing with ROCK) but haven’t gotten a reply. Nice to have @brian confirm support though. the NUC10i7FNH will be a good choice, but currently: NUC8i7BEH2: Based on my experience (Hungary ). With Roon, you’ll rediscover old favorites and find new music you love. Looking to design a high quality multi-room/zone system around Roon that is intuitive, consistent, simple and stable. We will show you how to make a usb-stick, which biosettings are important and how to finally start setting up a library . Facebook. But I doubt that Roon would need that power in a foreseeable future. It's identical to the systems below, but is sold by a dealer and comes ready to use. I’m not too worried about the fanless case. There are also commercial ethernet->USB bridges like the microRendu, which are very turnkey + cost less than that NUC7i7DN per zone. I doubt my gear (or maybe my ears) would notice the difference. It’s what I’ve been using for my personal system for the past few months, too, and it has been trouble-free. Whether those can have impact on sound quality or not is another endless debate. I carefully read the Roon Rock knowledge base and the new model is not mentioned. ROCK wird von Roon Labs kostenlos zum Download angeboten. Now that Intel officially published the 10th generation of their NUC line, I’m curious what can we expect. den Roon Core beeinträchtigen weg. Start your FREE trial. (Do not deny anything before trying, this is my philosophy.) I decided to buy a NUC, and on my short-list the 8i3 and 8i7 were the two candidates. NUC8i3BEH; 8 … Any news / updates / advice on the NUC10i7FNH? But now I’m OK When in idle, the NUC consume not more than 4-5 Wh, and under load with the used DSP settings it goes up just to 6-7 Wh. I don’t expect a price decrease in case of the older models, rather the 10’th gen will be slightly more expensive. Just curious. I will install 8 GB Apacer RAM and a Samsung 860 EVO or 960 EVO or 970 EVO plus SSD. Even with an 8th gen i3 I would be OK. Im Gegensatz zum Roon Nucleus wird beim PrimeMini eine Business-Variante … do you really need the power of this? Davon ausgenommen ist lediglich die Möglichkeit, das jeweilige Roon-Remote-Gerät auch als Roon Core zu konfigurieren. Regarding memory it depends on your library size? Nun ja, ich will mich natürlich selber loben, denn die Methode, mal auszuprobieren, wovon man da erzählt, bewährt sich, zumindest meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach, doch immer wieder. The price decreased slightly (nothing interesting here). Network/Ethernet > NUC/ROCK USB > USB Hard Drive(s), The End Point ROCKs in each room would connect: Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. Die Roon Remote App funktioniert auf dem Tablet und Smartphone und bietet alle Möglichkeiten, die auch die Roon Control App bietet. That’s what Chris C. at Computer Audiophile built his ROCK on and that’s what @Henry_McLeod recommended. If so, are there any limitations on how many End Point ROCKs and/or how much DSP can be used? Versuche mit lokalen Cores auf Windows und Mac habe ich wieder abgebrochen. Slowest processing speed was 9x with a DSD file, but generally it runs around 18x, which means I still have enough computing reserves…. Sowohl von … Or would the NUC7i7BNH still be a better option? Der PrimeMini hat sich so bereits bei vielen audiophilen Kunden als kosteneffiziente Roon Nucleus Alternative bewährt. TeddyNUC - Power Supply for Intel NUC (Roon Rock, Roon Nucleus, Asrock Beebox etc) $399.00. Not to get off topic, but this really annoys me. Can the Intel NUC7i7DN running supported Roon ROCK be used as a Core and as End Points connected to a network in a multi-room/zone system with USB DACs? But it is better to invest a bit more to be somewhat future proof. Ich verstehe ehrlich nicht ganz, warum Roon Labs selber nur SMB empfiehlt. Without knowing what the ‘future enhancements and developments’ are your question is impossible to answer, I would buy the best fully supported NUC available which I believe is the NUC7i7BNH, the 8th gen will work but I don’t believe ROCK has been adjusted for them yet? Stable, dead quiet and cool as a chilled cucumber. I purchased a NUC7i7BNH and it works well, but I’m getting dropouts when I play 192khz MQA Tidal content along with DSP EQ. Dieses PC-Programm funktioniert mit 64-BitVersion von Windows 7/10. I might use this NUC for other functions in the future, so I paid a little more for memory, storage, cooling, antennas, etc. Hopefully there will be some good deals before/after NUC10 launch. Both Gen8 and Gen10 offer better performance. Frankly, I’m getting a bit fed up with Roon. If it’s too noisy, I’ll move it into the basement where I’ve got a makeshift computer rack. Performance results for the CPU’s are already available on cpubenchmark.net . Don’t know which SSD would be the best…. You could do this, but it’s pretty cost-inefficient and power hungry and involves putting fans near endpoints unless you spend even more $ to put the NUCs in fanless enclosures. I installed Windows 10 and applied updates. D.h. auf dem NUC läuft Roon exclusiv mit einem optimiertes OS (Linux). I’ve been thinking that the NUC10 is a bit expensive, but the NUC8 prices seem to be inflated to nearly the same cost, probably due to the apparent shortage. Den Roon Nucleus gibt es in einer Intel Core i3 und Core i7 Variante. I have ROCK running on this for about a year now. The NUC7i7BNH seems to be the one. Das Inserat mit der Nummer 1751956847 endet am 11.03.2021 um 15:29 Uhr. NFS ist bei mir performanter und ich konnte keine Einschränkung bemerken. A post was split to a new topic: Mac Mono Upgrade Question, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, New Dawson Canyon NUCS supported? After spending several (this usually means plenty of) hours finding answers to my questions I ordered a NUC8i5BEH2. Freue mich wie ein Kleinkind! Of course 8i5 is an option as well. This is a fully loaded, turn key, just plug in, hookup to Ethernet and load your music for a full ROON experience, NUC 10 i7 12 core running ROCK (Roon's proprietary operating system) with a 1TB internal SSD for music, 250 GB SSD for ROON Server, and 64 GB ram. ROON ran fine on my Win 10 PC’s but I got peed off forgetting and doing a reboot/update/install and losing my tunes playing, especially a feature update that took ages, so I now run it on a NUC running ROCK, solid and stable plus less niggles than running on a QNAP NAS. I also don’t think there is any reason for a Linear PSU, but to each there own on that one. First LAN is used for the connection to the wifi router and second LAN - to the roon endpoint by audiophile ethernet cable. jt301 489 Posted July 7, 2020. jt301. Would be good if that happens and price of the “old stock” would go down, but as I can see in several webshops some of the 8’th gen NUCs are already not on stock. If you NEED one now, then get it. At the time I’ve planned my ROCK NUC my library was looking like this:. I wish I knew about the NUC7i7DN when I bought mine. Dank genügend Ressourcen und Platz sehr stabil. Don’t know which SSD would be the best… Bob_Dostie (BobD) December 16, 2019, 12:50am #12. That depends on library size, DSP Needs, and number of simultaneous endpoints active. Downloadable software for Roon App, Roon Server, Roon Remote and Roon Bridge. The price will be around $2,000 for the i7 model. I’m satisfied with the change… All in all it was a good decision to invest in a NUC. There is no difference at all in SQ, and that is way Roon make no claims about it. I’d have to actually go back to the previous NUC releases, which you could search as well, to check my memory; but, I think that information about a new NUC version begins to be discussed after the NUC has been officially released. I just wanted to make sure the NUC10 will actually work with ROCK. Hopefully Danny can confirm before you or anyone else purchases a NUC7i7DN*. For the 8th gen NUC’s fanless cases are already available and are Roon ROCK supported. Zudem fühlt sich Roon Rock auch an wie ein normales Gerät an. Ich habe hier einen NUC 10 mit i5 unter Ubuntu 20.04 mit Docker drauf laufen. Performance should be similar to the Nucleus i7. To be partly fair to the Knowledge Base it lists NUC7i7XXX as supported. I’ve just spent a lot of money on an inadequate solution (MQA 192 does not work properly). In the other thread I linked above, @Katun rightly mentioned the KB was last updated before the 8th Gen NUC7i7DN* came on sale. I would stick to ARM-based endpoints like Raspberry Pi if you are just looking for network->usb bridging and want to roll something yourself. Download for PC. Anbindung an die Synology per NFS. Such configuration is the best for SQ. 4-8 = End Point NUC/ROCKs with USB DACs Connected to Router/Switch, The Core ROCK would connect: Since this is your first time launching ROCK, you will be asked to log-in when you connect. Surely, but if the Nucleus+ NUC7 can handle most cases then you have to have extreme needs to use the NUC10. Also, how much memory and SSD should I get? And timing is important as well, I don’t want to wait month for my new roon server, this is why I would appreciate Roon Team’s feedback about support of the new NUC’s. One of my biggest concern was the TDP of CPU i5-8259U vs i5-10210U because my ROCK will run 7/24. I’ve read that, one or more, Moore’s law is catching up with Intel and they have shifted focus from performance to power savings as a result. How Roon works; Features; Nucleus; Partners; Try it FREE. Qty: Add to Cart. But now, I don’t know what to do. Who knows when will be both available for the 10th gen NUC’s. Does anyone know what the process might be? I have over 50 GB free on the SSD. I built two of these, one for a friend who decided to go a different route. Easy to set up and forget about. Roon Labs has pre-selected two Intel NUC based systems on which people should install ROCK. Hardware. Yet another computer that would connect to your DAC and receive its music stream from Roon Server. if you want a good fanless case, you still have to wait some time. Pre-Disclosure: I’m an active, paying Roon Labs subscriber (annual subscription) ... own system software that was designed to run on the Intel NUC so you generally might want to build a system around the NUC. First issue will be the bios boot settings and no efi setting. I will continue to use my laptop as the controller, but I’ve … nor is there any warning that the old model is not quite powerful enough. I also purchased a $100 power supply that may not be necessary (I think it is). OK, I do not use CPU intensive DSD conversions. When will be they supported by Roon R.O.C.K.?
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